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The Right Way To Buy Options - Long Vertical Spread

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www.SkyViewTrading.com Most traders start out buying options because it’s the simplest option strategy to understand. If you think a stock will go up, you’d buy a call. If you think the stock will go down, you’d buy a put. Well this is NOT a very good trading strategy because you’ll lose money every single day due to time decay. No smart investor is going to buy a depreciating asset and call it an investment. Watch this video to learn a better way to buy options to make a directional bet on a stock but WITHOUT time decay hurting you. We’re going to show you how to trade the Long Vertical Spread to accomplish this. Also, make sure to sign up for our FREE 3 Video Lesson Series at www.skyviewtrading.com! Adam Thomas Sky View Trading what are options how to trade options how to buy options option pricing options explanation stock options option strategies Vertical Spread Option Strategy Vertical Spread Iron Condor Bull Call Spread How To Trade a Vertical Spread option trading basics option time decay
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Larry Jones (5 days ago)
Great Job explaining vertical spread options my friend. I greatly appreciate it.
alex jones (6 days ago)
But if the option expires worthless you cant make a profit. so at 3:13 Youre actual profit is only $200 because the Short $80 call expires worthless.
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The problem is how about if stock only go up to $81??? If stock go up only $81, how is your calculate????
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Fernando Lener (12 days ago)
After 80, you will be capped to $ 500 profit. It doesn't matter if the stock price is 81, 100, 500 or 1000.
David Perez (19 days ago)
when using the vertical spread how long until expiration are the options that you're trading? is it typically 45-30 days?
Maxwell Johnson (19 days ago)
I typically do options with expirations at least 60 days away that way you pay for significantly less time decay
HALO INSTINCTS (25 days ago)
Awful explanation
Hitman 009 (29 days ago)
Confused, I am new, if current price is 75 why do you buy c Call option 70, should not you buying Put option of 70?
Stadia King (1 month ago)
This is wrong. (2:45) You loose the 250$ for the short 80 call.
topstar911 (24 days ago)
No, the short 80 call is OTM and thus worthless near or at expiration.
NzmAnh Dee (1 month ago)
What if you do Long long or short short??
NzmAnh Dee (1 month ago)
Is this 100% can anyone check.
Sachin (1 month ago)
You made it so simple to understand the complex stuff..thank you
Lance Orr (1 month ago)
Thanks for the video. Only thing is you have no mention of intrinsic and extrinsic value, but that would've complicated things.
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So true
Dontlikenaimepas (1 month ago)
Scenario 4 happens lot more for me than the other ones
Josh Burda (1 month ago)
So with this method can you make money if the price does not change or dose the value of the stock have to go up.
Alex (1 month ago)
Josh Burda It needs to go up. He goes over this potential scenario at 3:40 (the stock is at $75 at the end, which is what it was at when you first bought the spread). You wouldn’t make any money but you wouldn’t lose any money either. There are other options strategies for when you want to profit off of the price not changing much like the iron condor or the iron butterfly, and I’m sure there’s others too that I just haven’t learned about yet. There’s even ways to make these spreads slightly more bullish or bearish by changing one of the legs so it’s not an equal distance away from the trading price but that’s getting a bit more involved.
Jim Gatti (2 months ago)
NEVER buy premium. Only during end of bear markets like end December 2018
Greg Martin (2 months ago)
Damn, so clear !!!! Many Thanks !
fugi1973 (2 months ago)
Can you do a tutorial on TOS mobile app about vertical put spreads?
Caren Liu (2 months ago)
what's your trading platform shown in this video?
Manimaran Krishnan (2 months ago)
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Ireen Letuli (2 months ago)
I understand buying the $70 but how do you sell the strike 80 (01:50) if you don’t have it?..
Oscar R (2 months ago)
You dont need to have it to sell it. Review short selling.
Bandz (2 months ago)
Another question if someone doesn't mind answering... If he bought the 70 strike, does he keep everything above 70 if time expires on contract? Even the .50 that is already there?
Bandz (2 months ago)
This is where I am always confused. You said to sell the 85 strike. However, won't I have to buy it before I can sell it? So, I am basically buying strike 75 and 85. Is that correct?
Yitzchok Ruttner (2 months ago)
It’s very clear but I don’t know what is a short call and how do you make a call at $70 when the current price is $75
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Hokie200proof (2 months ago)
What happens if whoever bought your 80 call executes it as soon as it's ITM? You'd need sell them 100 shares of the stock, right?
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张梓径 (2 months ago)
Out of money then you gain 250$?
Kyler Yake (3 months ago)
Why would you buy an itm call in the first place. No to mention 5 dollars under.
Jiansen Zheng (3 months ago)
Cool. I like it!
Spencer Mayaleh (3 months ago)
What happens if the the buyer of your short wants to exercise his option? Pleas if anyone knows that would be great
boss hog (3 months ago)
Watched twice. Nice job. 🤙🏻
Marcus Riddick (3 months ago)
Is there a way to simulate this out come in a Level II account in thinkorswim? Im new to options and do not have approval yet for my account to do spreads....
R T (3 months ago)
you must specify that the calls were negotiated at 75, otherwise this vid is unnecessarily confusing for a simple concept. In fact you seemed to have bought the long call 5 dollars in the money. But it is my understanding that most pro traders buy calls and puts slightly out of the money for short term trades.
R T (3 months ago)
you left out that smart traders buy calls close to in the money, they do not swing for the fences and they only trade them short term so your first example in the vid is not a good one imo
Justin Corlett (3 months ago)
Love the channel. Can you explain how at 50$, the option is still out of them money for the short 80 call? Because it is short 80, Im having a hard time understanding that.
Chenxing Liu (3 months ago)
The think or swim part is very helpful. Thanks!
Paul Spelt (3 months ago)
Thanks this really cleared this up for me! Subscribed. I guess the bearish inverse of these examples would be buying a put at 80 (ITM) and selling a put at something like 65 (OTM) right? Also, do you let the options expire in this case? Thanks!
Richard Servello (3 months ago)
What if someone exercises the naked call early???
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Thank you so much , what trading platform are you using ???
Ben (4 months ago)
But markets are effecient, so where does your edge come from? Sure there is time decay when selling options to "profit" from, but it doesn't always go your way and often the option buyer wins.
Dung Ho (4 months ago)
I still don't get. How you get that 500 dollar or that 200 dollar from?
Ned K (5 months ago)
How does the $250 at the start count against the $750, did you own options previously? Presumably the guarantee would still be required by the exchange, would they really let someone make a larger trade for less capital this way?
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Hernando Hoyos (5 months ago)
On the first call at 70 example, i dont understand why the breakeven is 77.50. Is this just the cost of stock + premium? Did he mention the premium anywhere, sorry a little confused. Thanks in advance. Great video.
jeremy339 (5 months ago)
So how do you exit this trade prior to expiration?
Daniel Ceballos (5 months ago)
Why does the short call have to expire worthless
MisterAwesome24 (6 months ago)
The $85 strike contract confuses me. Do you already have to have that contract in order to sell it? How are you getting $250 for free and deducting it from your long call?
MisterAwesome24 (6 months ago)
So I have to write my own calls?
Patrick Adams (6 months ago)
Your examples do not take into account volatility movement, where IV is at the time you put on the trade or what scenarios are acceptable for placing a vertical spread. When "buying" a vertical spread (call or put). Theta does play a role in the profit of the spread. If the price moves too rapidly, it will have to travel much more than your examples to realize maximum profit. you should show how to calculate probability of profit as well as how to calculate the spread profit over time. here is a link you can share that shows this. http://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/ . Also, explain how many times do you buy vertical spreads and realize maximum profit because it is less than 50% of the time. One last thing is you should explain "Liquidity" in the underlying being purchased and the importance of trading liquid products. Don't get me wrong. I like your examples and trading verticals is my bread and butter, but you need to explain the entire trade so people do not go out and use your examples without knowing the whole story because they will lose money. You NEED to do a follow up video and explain this strategy completely.
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Patrick, I'm intrigued by your portrayal of knowledge/experience. Any way that you can make a video, or a powerpoint or something?
ncs2000 (6 months ago)
I am confused about scenario one, paid $500, but only regain $450, isn't that a lost?
bryan duffy (6 months ago)
If your buy call is at 80 and the stock goes above 80 doesn't your option pay u at 80 and u miss the money above 80?
Ray Lee (6 months ago)
Really easy to understand vertical spreads laid out like this, thanks! I do have one question, I currently use E-trade Pro and when I place an order for a spread, I'm given 4 "price types" - Market, Even, Net Debit and Net Credit. What are the differences?
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Jesus this video just flipped my world upside down lol been buying single options but after watching this is just doesn't make sense not to buy the vertical. I usually buy LEAPS but when looking at the delta of a LEAPS vertical for like two years the delta is extremely low compared to shorter expirations times. Should I change my strategy to shorter time frames like a couple months to gain profits faster if my direction is right or keep the long term LEAPS for the time benefit, not really sure..
Makaveli (6 months ago)
Very confusing explanation.
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Was this a debit spread in the example used in the vid?
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Taylor Jones (7 months ago)
As someone who has done both, I would definitely recommend using vertical spreads as opposed to simply buying naked (single) options. The limited profitability is much worth the trade off for the amount of risk you incur. Spreads are more affordable, offer more flexible break-even points, and your P/L is much less volatile. If you continue to only buy single options, even if you are right in the long-term, you most likely will be stopped out and/or find it very difficult (and most of the time unwise) to hold a position that could easily lose 50% value overnight. Buy Spreads!
William Lusher (6 months ago)
Does your short call need to be covered? As a beginner, I would be nervous about it getting exercised and not having the stock.
Patrick Hughes (7 months ago)
Super noob question but....when do you sell these?
Piyush Chauhan (7 months ago)
For example if I buy put strike price of 70 in your vedio and it is available at 30 rs means I have to pay 3000 rs and the put option of 65 is 15 rs but current price of Stoke goes to 75 to 70 then the price of 65 increase from 15 to 20 and if I would have bought 65 strike price at the rate of 15 then when current price moves can I sell the 65 strike price to other buyer at 20 rs which I initially bought at 15 making profit of 5 rs ??
Piyush Chauhan (7 months ago)
Liked your work , I have a question that example if I buy a naked option of call at 50 Rs and after some time it increases to 55 rs can I sell it other buyer ?and profit from difference?
Adwoa Baidoo (7 months ago)
I use robinhood to do my trading as a beginner and i don't think they have the option to do vertical trading like you showed here, do have any recommendation on how to do this using platforms like robinhood?
Kc F (7 months ago)
How are you selling a buy option for a stock at one strike price unless you own one at that same strike price?
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I wanna learn this..amazing
Madeline Yau (7 months ago)
So here is an example if WSM stocks today is at $68.19 and i want to do a vertical trade of $2.00 increase in the time of expiration if I’m right I make money? If it decreases by $2.00 I lost money? So with options I’m biding if the stock will increases or decrease? Sorry if I’m confusing at explaining my thought process trying to learn this.
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Rahgir Nabi (7 months ago)
Great video! Can you close your position early on the sell? What if the buyer wants to exercise the options they bought and it’s in the money? Thanks!
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Junaid Sohail (8 months ago)
Good video. I'm curious why almost no videos about long vertical spreads mention that the option can be closed any time before the expiration as well. Let's say, if I don't want to risk waiting till expiration or shoot for the max gain, and I am happy with a 20-30% gain, so I can close the option much earlier? Am I understanding this correctly?
Sheshagiri Pai (8 months ago)
This is a Debit spread. What advantage does this have over a OTM Credit spread. i.e Sell Call @80 and Buy Call @90
johnny llooddte (8 months ago)
ahahah first you have to have 25,000 in your account to short.. and your risking 500 dollar loss to make 750.. youre insane
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boss hog (3 months ago)
johnny llooddte what’s your strategy
johnny llooddte (8 months ago)
80% of options die worthless
Nick Bertocchi (8 months ago)
these trade example profits seem rather unrealistic if theta (time) is slowly killing your long leg at the same time it's killing your short leg you sold. Are you going long farther out in time, say (68 days to exp) and shorting sooner (30 days or less to exp)?
Taloot B (8 months ago)
I just buy them in a good spot, weather it's a call or put. I don't see myself ever doing this. True limited loss but limited gains as well
lmwai (8 months ago)
Regarding the vertical spread, Will we be issue the stock if we chose not to exercise both the buy call option?
Cornholio777 (8 months ago)
02:40 I'm struggling to figure out how you gonna make $250.00 on the short $80 when you are out of the money and it's worthless? Please show me the math
Jarod Tupak (4 months ago)
+CrazyMonkeyKing4 thank you for the explaination...
CrazyMonkeyKing4 (7 months ago)
It's because that is a call that is written and sold by him to someone else. If the price of the underlying goes above $80 per share he's responsible for buying 100 shares of and selling it to the person who the call was owns the call option. This is not in his favour if he has to buy the stock at say $81 each and then sell it to someone else at $80 dollars each. He wants the price of the underlying stock to remain under $80 to prevent this situation from occurring.
Cornholio777 (8 months ago)
It sounds like you break even but you save $250.00 in the strike price because we are risking only 500. In which scenario do we make money on the short 80 call? On the vertical Put, do you short buy high and sell low on vertical spread?
Daniel Levi (9 months ago)
How do you get $ 2 commissions?
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Sam Rosenberg (9 months ago)
Can someone explain how we can sell a call without owning 100 shares of the underlying? It seems like most options :strategies" require you to own the underlying to execute the strategy
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Fareed A (9 months ago)
Very helpful! Thank you.
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Blake Malcolm (10 months ago)
Why wouldn't you just buy a long call at 75 - that would be cheaper than buying a call in the money and you don't limit your upside potential?
Sky View Trading (10 months ago)
Because in that case, you're hit hard by time decay. Not only does the stock has to move, it has to move big for you to even break even... With this strategy, time decay does not hurt you and even if the stock stays flat, you will breakeven.
Ankit Patel (10 months ago)
Awesome video
Giovanni Garibotto (11 months ago)
Hello, regarding doing puts perhaps i purchase at X then on bracket i do profit taker 10% down so if i win appears negatives numbers on monitor so i dont understand please help ☺ if the software is that way or i am makimg mistake, thanks.

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